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<font size="+1"><i>May 11, 2018</i></font><br>
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[Science update sea level rise - 1 hour video]<br>
<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://youtu.be/TvV_-o8KPgM?t=1m59s">Sea level rise in
the next 100 to 10,000 years: Dr Peter Clark (April 2018)</a></b><br>
Understanding Climate Change<br>
Published on May 9, 2018<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://youtu.be/TvV_-o8KPgM?t=1m59s">https://youtu.be/TvV_-o8KPgM?t=1m59s</a><br>
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[Washington Post article in April]<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/02/08/what-the-earth-will-be-like-in-10000-years-according-to-scientists/?utm_term=.0b3a51a8847e">What
the Earth will be like in 10,000 years, according to scientists</a><br>
<font size="-1"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/02/08/what-the-earth-will-be-like-in-10000-years-according-to-scientists/?utm_term=.0b3a51a8847e">https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/02/08/what-the-earth-will-be-like-in-10000-years-according-to-scientists/?utm_term=.0b3a51a8847e</a></font><br>
<br>
Earth's Future Research Article Open Access<br>
<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2017EF000805">Sea
Level Rise Impacts on Wastewater Treatment Systems Along the
U.S. Coasts</a></b><br>
Michelle A. Hummel <br>
Plain Language Summary<br>
<blockquote>Wastewater treatment plants are susceptible to flooding
resulting from sea level rise. Previous estimates of wastewater
exposure have only considered the impacts of marine flooding at
the local or regional scale. In this analysis, we quantify the
exposure to marine flooding across the coastal United States and
then consider the relative impacts of marine and groundwater
flooding at the regional scale in the San Francisco Bay Area. We
also estimate the number of people who may lose access to
wastewater services if no actions are taken to prevent flooding at
wastewater treatment plants. We find that the number of people
impacted by sea level rise due to loss of wastewater services
could be five times as high as previous predictions of the number
of people who experience direct flooding of their homes or
property. We also find that groundwater flooding poses a
significant threat to wastewater plants in the San Francisco Bay
region.<br>
</blockquote>
<font size="-1"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2017EF000805">https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2017EF000805</a></font><br>
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[Long term adaptation]<br>
<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2018EF000828">Responding
to Sea Level Rise: Does Short‐Term Risk Reduction Inhibit
Successful Long‐Term Adaptation?</a></b><br>
A. G. Keeler - First published: 06 April 2018<br>
Abstract<br>
<blockquote>Most existing coastal climate‐adaptation planning
processes, and the research supporting them, tightly focus on how
to use land use planning, policy tools, and infrastructure
spending to reduce risks from rising seas and changing storm
conditions. While central to community response to sea level rise,
we argue that the exclusive nature of this focus biases against
and delays decisions to take more discontinuous, yet proactive,
actions to adapt-for example, relocation and aggressive individual
protection investments. Public policies should anticipate real
estate market responses to risk reduction to avoid large
costs-social and financial-when and if sea level rise and other
climate‐related factors elevate the risks to such high levels that
discontinuous responses become the least bad alternative.<br>
</blockquote>
<font size="-1"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2018EF000828">https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2018EF000828</a></font><br>
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[Text update from Code Red]<br>
<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.climatecodered.org/2018/05/what-goes-up-must-come-down-its-time.html">What
goes up must come down: It's time for a carbon drawdown budget</a></b><br>
Posted: 09 May 2018 - by David Spratt<br>
There is no carbon budget left for 1.5 degrees C climate warming
target, which means that to achieve this outcome every tonne of
emissions must be matched by a tonne of drawdown of atmospheric
carbon from now on. For that reason, carbon budgets and emissions
target should be complemented by a carbon drawdown budget and
target.<br>
That's the proposal made by Breakthrough, the Melbourne-based
National Centre for Climate Restoration, to the Victorian climate
change targets 2021-2030 expert panel, last week.<br>
In the submission, Breakthrough established that:<br>
<blockquote><b>1.5 degrees C of climate warming is not safe;</b><b><br>
</b><b>There is no carbon budget remaining for 1.5 degrees C, so
"What goes up must come down";</b><b><br>
</b><b>"Overshoot" in emission reduction scenarios should be
minimised in extent and duration to avoid tipping points that
may be irreversible on human time-frames.</b><br>
</blockquote>
<font size="-1">More at:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.climatecodered.org/2018/05/what-goes-up-must-come-down-its-time.html">http://www.climatecodered.org/2018/05/what-goes-up-must-come-down-its-time.html</a><br>
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<br>
[maybe if we called it "cc"?]<br>
<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://s2.washingtonpost.com/699d5a/5af488a4fe1ff63b7970f57b/cGRxQHJwYXVsaS5jb20%3D/6/48/1caa8bdb04d68751cb1e588cb4e1ab30">The
phrase 'climate change' appeared in a draft Pentagon report 23
times. The final version used it once.</a></b><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://s2.washingtonpost.com/699d5a/5af488a4fe1ff63b7970f57b/cGRxQHJwYXVsaS5jb20%3D/6/48/1caa8bdb04d68751cb1e588cb4e1ab30"><br>
</a>The draft dates to the final months of the Obama administration.
The final was released earlier this year. <br>
Pentagon revised Obama-era report to remove risks from climate
change <br>
by Chris Mooney and Missy Ryan May 10<br>
Internal changes to a draft Defense Department report de-emphasized
the threats climate change poses to military bases and
installations, muting or removing references to climate-driven
changes in the Arctic and potential risks from rising seas, an
unpublished draft obtained by The Washington Post reveals.<br>
The earlier version of the document, dated December 2016, contains
numerous references to "climate change" that were omitted or altered
to "extreme weather" or simply "climate" in the final report, which
was submitted to Congress in January 2018. While the phrase "climate
change" appears 23 separate times in the draft report, the final
version used it just once.<br>
Those and other edits suggest the Pentagon has adapted its approach
to public discussion of climate change under President Trump, who
has expressed doubt about the reality of a phenomenon that
scientists agree presents an increasing danger to the planet. While
military leaders have said they see a changing climate as a driver
of instability worldwide, they have also sought to stay out of a
politically charged debate about its causes...<br>
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The final Pentagon document even omits, in several cases, the simple
observation that learning about bases' vulnerability to sea-level
rise was a core part of the survey that is the subject of the
report. That survey itself asked each military site how much of its
area was located at elevations between 0-3, 0-6, 0-9, or 0-12 feet
above sea level...<br>
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"The wordsmithing, not saying 'climate,' I could live with that,"
said Dennis McGinn, a retired Navy vice admiral who served as
assistant secretary of the Navy for energy, installations and
environment in the Obama administration, when some of the changes
were described to him. "But taking out … maps of critical areas of
flooding, that's pretty fundamental. And the Arctic, that's huge,
for a lot of reasons, not just for Department of Defense, but for
the Coast Guard, and commercial shipping business."...<br>
<font size="-1">more at:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://s2.washingtonpost.com/699d5a/5af488a4fe1ff63b7970f57b/cGRxQHJwYXVsaS5jb20%3D/6/48/1caa8bdb04d68751cb1e588cb4e1ab30">https://s2.washingtonpost.com/699d5a/5af488a4fe1ff63b7970f57b/cGRxQHJwYXVsaS5jb20%3D/6/48/1caa8bdb04d68751cb1e588cb4e1ab30</a></font><br>
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<br>
[investments, encouraging]<br>
<b><a
href="https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2018/05/09/kinder-morgan-shareholders-eco-resolutions-pass-in-rare-investor-upset.html">Kinder
Morgan shareholders' eco-resolutions pass in rare investor upset</a></b><br>
With B.C. project in limbo, Texas energy giant's own investors
demand more information on environmental, climate performance.<br>
By DAVID P. BALL - StarMetro Vancouver - Wed., May 9, 2018<br>
VANCOUVER-In an upset for a major publicly-traded corporation, two
environmental resolutions at Kinder Morgan Inc.'s annual general
meetings passed with more than 50 per cent of shareholder votes
Wednesday, against the Texas firm's advice.<br>
Proponents of investor activism declared the Houston AGM results a
victory for "democratization" inside a company that's more used to
protests from environmental and Indigenous opponents outside its
doors.<br>
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It's unknown whether the two votes, demanding more transparency to
shareholders about its environmental performance and risks, could
affect its Trans Mountain expansion plans in B.C.<br>
The 1,100-kilometre project - which will nearly triple the flow of
diluted bitumen to the West Coast from Alberta's oilsands, and
increase tanker traffic sevenfold - was approved by Ottawa and
Victoria, and started construction last fall.<br>
But early last month, the company announced it was ending all
"non-essential spending" on the pipeline, saying it would abandon
the project if B.C. didn't call off plans to impose new
environmental regulations by May 31; the B.C. government asked the
courts to rule on whether it has the authority to do so.<br>
<font size="-1"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2018/05/09/kinder-morgan-shareholders-eco-resolutions-pass-in-rare-investor-upset.html">https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2018/05/09/kinder-morgan-shareholders-eco-resolutions-pass-in-rare-investor-upset.html</a></font><br>
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<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.desmogblog.com/2018/05/08/bayou-bridge-pipeline-st-james-louisiana-evacuation-judge-ruling">Louisiana
Court Says State Wrongly Issued Permit for Bayou Bridge Pipeline
Through Vulnerable Town</a></b><br>
Julie Dermansky - May 8, 2018<br>
A Louisiana judge ruled that state regulators violated guidelines
when they issued a coastal use permit to build the Bayou Bridge
pipeline in the town of St. James. The judge's decision, made on
April 30, could halt construction of the final 18 miles of the
pipeline, which is part of a network carrying fracked oil that
begins with the Dakota Access pipeline.<br>
Bayou Bridge Pipeline LLC, a subsidiary of Dakota Access owner
Energy Transfer Partners, began building the pipeline earlier this
year despite multiple legal challenges. The pipeline is slated to
stretch 162.5 miles, from Lake Charles, near the Texas border,
across southern Louisiana to a railway terminal in St. James, a
predominantly low-income African-American community.<br>
Located in a highly industrialized stretch of land along the
Mississippi River known as Cancer Alley, St. James has seen a burst
of activity in recent years as oil storage tanks, chemical plants,
and a railway terminal moved into this largely rural town. <br>
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"Our air, land, and water are polluted, and my health is already
compromised," she said. "The entire community needs to be bought
out, or we will find our selves dying too soon, like Keith Hunter."<font
size="-1"><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.desmogblog.com/2018/05/08/bayou-bridge-pipeline-st-james-louisiana-evacuation-judge-ruling">https://www.desmogblog.com/2018/05/08/bayou-bridge-pipeline-st-james-louisiana-evacuation-judge-ruling</a></font><br>
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<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/05/trump-white-house-quietly-cancels-nasa-research-verifying-greenhouse-gas-cuts">Trump
White House quietly cancels NASA research verifying greenhouse
gas cuts</a></b><br>
By Paul Voosen - May. 9, 2018 <br>
You can't manage what you don't measure. The adage is especially
relevant for climate-warming greenhouse gases, which are crucial to
manage-and challenging to measure. In recent years, though,
satellite and aircraft instruments have begun monitoring carbon
dioxide and methane remotely, and NASA's Carbon Monitoring System
(CMS), a $10-million-a-year research line, has helped stitch
together observations of sources and sinks into high-resolution
models of the planet's flows of carbon. Now, President Donald
Trump's administration has quietly killed the CMS, Science has
learned.<br>
<br>
The move jeopardizes plans to verify the national emission cuts
agreed to in the Paris climate accords, says Kelly Sims Gallagher,
director of Tufts University's Center for International Environment
and Resource Policy in Medford, Massachusetts. "If you cannot
measure emissions reductions, you cannot be confident that countries
are adhering to the agreement," she says. Canceling the CMS "is a
grave mistake," she adds.<br>
<br>
The White House has mounted a broad attack on climate science,
repeatedly proposing cuts to NASA's earth science budget, including
the CMS, and cancellations of climate missions such as the Orbiting
Carbon Observatory 3 (OCO-3). Although Congress fended off the
budget and mission cuts, a spending deal signed in March made no
mention of the CMS. That allowed the administration's move to take
effect, says Steve Cole, a NASA spokesperson in Washington, D.C.
Cole says existing grants will be allowed to finish up, but no new
research will be supported...<br>
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This type of research is likely to continue, Duffy adds, but
leadership will pass to Europe, which already operates one
carbon-monitoring satellite, with more on the way. "We really shoot
ourselves in the foot if we let other people develop the
technology," he says, given how important the techniques will be in
managing low-carbon economies in the future. Hurtt, meanwhile, holds
out hope that NASA will restore the program. After all, he says, the
problem isn't going away. "The topic of climate mitigation and
carbon monitoring is maybe not the highest priority now in the
United States," he says. "But it is almost everywhere else."<br>
<font size="-1"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/05/trump-white-house-quietly-cancels-nasa-research-verifying-greenhouse-gas-cuts">http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/05/trump-white-house-quietly-cancels-nasa-research-verifying-greenhouse-gas-cuts</a></font><br>
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[OPINION May 9, 2018 ]<br>
<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.hcn.org/articles/opinion-high-schoolers-forced-Utah-to-admit-climate-change-is-real">High
schoolers forced Utah to admit climate change is real</a></b><br>
A group of students convinced state lawmakers to acknowledge the
warming planet.<br>
Jack Greene is a contributor to Writers on the Range, the opinion
service of High Country News. He is a retired high school teacher
who works with students around the state of Utah on environmental
issues. High school student Piper Christian contributed to this
opinion.<br>
It sounds completely improbable: The Utah Legislature recently
adopted a resolution that moves the state from denial of global
climate change to the recognition that finding a solution is
crucial.<br>
An obvious question is how this flip-flop occurred in a legislature
with a Republican super-majority of 83 percent, in a state that
produces more than 90 percent of its electricity from fossil fuels.
Students at Logan High School can tell you the answer: For nearly
two years, they have been working to make the Legislature budge.
They educated themselves about the science of climate change and
formed alliances with other students and business leaders throughout
the state.<br>
Most of all, the teenagers never stopped. They simply refused to
give up.<br>
Their efforts began in 2016, when they learned that, six years
earlier, the Utah Legislature had passed a resolution declaring that
climate change should be ignored until the science was more
convincing. Some Logan High School students found this incredible.
They'd witnessed firsthand how climate change was contributing to
longer and more intense fire seasons, and they experienced Utah's
dwindling snowpack and increasing water scarcity.<br>
"My generation and generations to come will inherit the many threats
that climate change poses," said Piper Christian, one of these
students. She decided to take action.<br>
With the help of key legislators, she and other concerned students
drafted a legislative resolution, "Economic and Environmental
Stewardship." Local business leaders who supported the students also
wrote to state legislators, saying, "We need Utah's policymakers to
help us prepare for the potential effects that a changing climate
could have on our state."<br>
Elected officials responded by claiming there was virtually no
chance of getting the resolution introduced, must less passed.
"Don't waste your time," they were told. "Try something less
ambitious." That response discouraged some students, but Christian
decided: "We will persist, primarily to see this as something that
does not have to be divisive."<br>
Their persistence paid off. Through a combination of networking and
building more alliances, things began to move forward. To the
students' amazement, a Republican legislator - Rep. Becky Edwards of
Bountiful - sponsored their resolution in the 2017 legislative
session. When it was time for a hearing in her committee, the
students spoke out forcefully and, some observers said, movingly.<br>
Yet their initial resolution died after a 5-5 split. The students
realized that they needed to do more work educating state
legislators and also getting feedback on their resolution. They
partnered with a coalition of advocacy organizations, whose
volunteers met with representatives from nearly every Utah political
district.<br>
The six Utah chapters of the Citizens' Climate Lobby were a major
force, along with at least five other organizations that combined
with the student network. At the start of the 2018 legislative
session, the grassroots groups partnered with Edwards to create an
evening program at the Capitol. It brought together high school
students, legislators and a five-member "climate solutions" panel.
The panel included a physicist, the director of the governor's
energy office, a student from Brigham Young University and two city
mayors.<br>
As the students said that night, "We, as youth leaders of Utah, have
assembled with you, our state leaders, to address what we consider
to be the paramount issue of our generation - that of a changing
climate. We hope this dialogue will … ultimately lead to action to
address this challenge on all levels - local, state and national."<br>
Adding to their public support was a business coalition that
included Rio Tinto, Rocky Mountain Power, Mark Miller Subaru, the
Salt Lake Chamber of Commerce, Utah Technology Council, the ski
areas of Alta, Snowbird, Solitude, Deer Valley and Park City, and
various other major businesses.<br>
The 2018 legislative general session began with Edwards again filing
the students' climate resolution. The students were forced to wait
with patience as the resolution moved slowly through the committee
process. They learned the importance of compromise as they watched
the wording of the resolution change to accommodate various
interests. <br>
Once again, testimony from the students about the seriousness of
climate change made an impact. Opinions started changing. The bill
was reported out of committee by an 8-2 vote. Then, at last, came
success as the House passed the resolution 51-21 and the Senate
23-3. A surprising 75 percent of Republican legislators voted in
favor of the bill, which Gov. Gary Herbert, also a Republican,
signed on March 20.<br>
Now, many people in Utah are grateful to these Logan High School
students and their allies, who never gave up despite the odds
against them.<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.hcn.org/articles/opinion-high-schoolers-forced-Utah-to-admit-climate-change-is-real">https://www.hcn.org/articles/opinion-high-schoolers-forced-Utah-to-admit-climate-change-is-real</a><br>
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[Vote]<br>
<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/want-to-save-the-world-vote">Want
to save the world? Vote. </a></b><br>
Contributed by Phil Plait<br>
I haven't written about global warming in a while here on the blog,
and I'll admit it's partly because the news about the United States
government is such an unending torrent of fetidness that writing
about it seems like spitting in the ocean. <br>
But the planet doesn't care about my feelings. It only responds to
stimuli, such as, for example, us dumping <a
href="http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/did-i-say-30-billion-tons-co2-year-i-meant-40"
target="_blank">40 billion tons of carbon dioxide</a> into the air
every year. For the first time in recorded history the monthly
average of CO2 in the air <a
href="https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/2018/05/02/carbon-dioxide-in-the-atmosphere-hits-record-high-monthly-average/"
target="_blank" rel="nofollow">hit 410 parts per million in April
2018</a>. That may not sound like much, but dosage makes the
poison; that's enough carbon dioxide to cause a significant
greenhouse effect. This is the most basic of science, <a
href="https://www.skepticalscience.com/cshistory.php"
target="_blank" rel="nofollow">something we've known for well over
a century</a>.<br>
The Earth's climate runs on heat. It's what causes the air to
circulate, water to evaporate, weather to happen. When you mess with
the climate's fuel, you mess with the climate.<br>
We've been seeing the effects of this for years, and I need not
enumerate them for you here (<a
href="https://climate.nasa.gov/effects/" target="_blank"
rel="nofollow">NASA has done that for me anyway</a>). But we've
just reached yet another milestone that's worth pointing out: <a
href="https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=92084"
target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Sea ice in the Bering Sea hit an
all-time low in April</a>. Normally, the waters between Russia and
Alaska are covered in ice this time of year, to the tune of half a
million square kilometers.<br>
But not in 2018. It's now "basically ice-free," according to Walt
Meier, a research scientist at the National Snow and Ice Data
center.<br>
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So why bring this up now? Well, the timeliness of both the sea ice
extent and the CO2 records makes this as good a time as any.<br>
But there's another reason. <a
href="http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/when-it-comes-climate-change-some-people-just-want-watch-world-burn"
target="_blank">Denying global warming is practically a plank of
the Republican party</a> (though there are some exceptions, they
are few compared to the number of GOP congresspeople). But there's
some good news.<br>
The midterm elections on November 6, 2018, <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_elections,_2018"
target="_blank" rel="nofollow">are now 180 days away</a>.<br>
That seems like a nice round auspicious number, so here we are. Is
your representative a science denier? Vote. Them. OUT.<br>
Get started today. <a href="https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote"
target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Make sure you're registered to vote</a>.
The rules are different state by state, so check. And if you're 17
now, but turn 18 by November 6, your voice will count. Register.<br>
It's not too late to stop this slow boil. Our planet is sick, but we
can still bring this fever down.<br>
<em>P.S. Did you know there are a lot of scientists running for
Congress? <a href="http://www.314action.org/home" target="_blank"
rel="nofollow">314 Action has a (partial) list</a>, so see if
there's one running in your district!</em><br>
<font size="-1"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/want-to-save-the-world-vot">http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/want-to-save-the-world-vot</a></font>e<br>
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[Candidates]<br>
<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.314action.org/endorsed-candidates-1/">314
Action is proud to endorse these scientists and other STEM
leaders who will fight to protect science and stand up to
climate deniers.</a></b><br>
<font size="-1"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.314action.org/endorsed-candidates-1/">http://www.314action.org/endorsed-candidates-1/</a></font><br>
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<font size="+1"><b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nbcnews.com/video/dylan-ratigan-show/42995814#42995814">This
Day in Climate History - May 11, 3022</a> - from D.R. Tucker</b></font><br>
May 11, 2011: MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan and former Department of
Homeland Security head Tom Ridge discuss the nexus between oil and
terrorism... how the U.S. paying to import oil is essentially
funneling money directly into the hands of terrorists. <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nbcnews.com/video/dylan-ratigan-show/42995814#42995814">http://www.nbcnews.com/video/dylan-ratigan-show/42995814#42995814</a>
(requires Flash player )<br>
See text transcript from the tab: "Transcript of this video" This
content comes from Closed Captioning that was broadcast along with
this program:<br>
<blockquote>>> well, you know, we have a legacy of promising
an energy policy to the taxpayers since the mid to late '70s. and
for 50 years have failed, both republicans and democrats, to do so
we are addicted, as the rest of the world is, to oil. we are not
an oil- rich country but we are an energy - rich country and one
of these days, people on both sides of the aisle will accept that
reality. the reality is that to a certain extent, we are funding
radical islam . to a certain extent, much of our foreign policy is
dictated by that dependency and we will start drilling in the
united states and obviously, as former pennsylvania governor , as
you mentioned, i'm very par together extraordinary opportunities
we have in this country with natural gas . so your introductory
comments were on target. ' energy policy , enormous addiction
could be avoided. the president has said he wants to win the
future. well, we don't have to wait until tomorrow to start
whipping it the advantage of drilling in the united states ,
particularly natural gas , is it's reduced emissions, a lot
cheaper fuel and frankly, american jobs and all of that is made in
america, red, white and blew<br>
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>> sure. and again, i'm aware of all of that, but at the
same time, whether we are going to drill for natural gas , whether
we are going to drill for oil, whether we are going to put solar
panels all over arizona, where we are going to put windmills in
north dakota , whether we are going to put tidal machinery off the
pacific ocean , it doesn't address the fact that our dissipation
rate on our power zbrid embarrassing. we -- electricity we make we
lose that the power generation facilities in this country are
grossly inefficient by comparison to global standards and isn't
that a function of the fact that we don't actual pay the real cost
of energy in this country? you go to the other countries, they are
paying $10, $12. they would never tolerate 35% efficiency when you
are paying $10, $12 a gallon<br>
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