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<font size="+1"><i>September 24, 2018</i></font><br>
<br>
[Everyone, except one]<br>
<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://apnews.com/417baf65b42540789611a56cdcff6358">Tackling
climate change to be key talking point at UN summit</a></b><br>
BERLIN (AP) -- With global temperatures rising, superstorms taking
their deadly toll and a year-end deadline to firm up the Paris
climate deal, leaders at this year's U.N. General Assembly are
feeling a sense of urgency to keep up the momentum on combating
climate change.<br>
That's why, in between discussing how to tackle wars, poverty and
deadly diseases around the world, leaders will be devoting
substantial time in New York this week to the question of global
warming and how to rein it in.<br>
There'll be talk of emissions targets and the need to adapt to the
inevitable changes already underway when small island states take
the floor at the annual gathering. Ministers from major economies,
meanwhile, will be meeting behind closed doors to discuss who will
pay to help poor countries avoid the worst effects of global warming
-- and prevent a wave of climate refugees in future.<br>
Outside the confines of the United Nations, campaigners and
businesspeople will meet during New York Climate Week, while
Wednesday will see the second edition of French President Emmanuel
Macron's One Planet Summit.<br>
About the only leader not expected to dwell on climate change is
President Donald Trump, who last year announced his intention to
withdraw the United States from the 2015 Paris accord. He says it
represents a bad deal for the American people...<br>
<font size="-1"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://apnews.com/417baf65b42540789611a56cdcff6358">https://apnews.com/417baf65b42540789611a56cdcff6358</a></font><br>
<br>
<br>
[we're gonna need a taller sea wall]<br>
<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/energy-environment/2018/09/20/antarctica-warming-could-fuel-disastrous-sea-level-rise-study-finds/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e44121d7248e">At
this rate, Earth risks sea level rise of 20 to 30 feet,
historical analysis shows</a></b><br>
New research finds that a vast area of Antarctica retreated when
Earth's temperatures weren't much warmer than they are now.<br>
By Chris Mooney<br>
September 20<br>
Temperatures not much warmer than the planet is experiencing now
were sufficient to melt a major part of the East Antarctic ice sheet
in Earth's past, scientists reported Wednesday, including during one
era about 125,000 years ago when sea levels were as much as 20 to 30
feet higher than they are now.<br>
"It doesn't need to be a very big warming, as long as it stays 2
degrees warmer for a sufficient time, this is the end game," said
David Wilson, a geologist at Imperial College London and one of the
authors of the new research, which was published in Nature.
Scientists at institutions in Australia, New Zealand, Japan and
Spain also contributed to the work.<br>
The research concerns a little-studied region called the Wilkes
Subglacial Basin, which is roughly the size of California and Texas
combined and contains more than 10 feet of potential sea-level rise.
Fronted by three enormous glaciers named Cook, Mertz and Ninnis, the
Wilkes is known to be vulnerable to fast retreat because the ice
here is not standing on land and instead is rising up from a deep
depression in the ocean floor.<br>
Moreover, that depression grows deeper as you move from the current
icy coastline of the Wilkes farther inland toward the South Pole, a
downhill slope that could facilitate rapid ice loss.<br>
- - - -<br>
The situations of Thwaites and Wilkes are eerily similar -- both
feature enormous amounts of ice resting on the seafloor, rather than
on land, and downward slopes that create what scientists call a
"marine ice sheet instability." And both contain enough ice to
unlock 10 feet or more of sea-level rise.<br>
Thwaites is "sitting in a very unfortunate spot…resting over some of
the deepest bedrock in West Antarctica," Ted Scambos, a senior
research scientist at the National Snow and Ice Data Center in
Boulder, Colo., said at a planning event at Columbia University on
Wednesday.<br>
The new study suggests that Thwaites is the beginning, not the end,
of our worries. One key difference, though, is that Thwaites is
already losing 50 billion tons of ice per year, whereas the Wilkes
region appears to be relatively unchanged for now, according to
Wilson.<br>
But it may simply be that while the world is already warm enough to
awaken West Antarctica, just a bit more warmth will cause the same
to happen to parts of the much larger East Antarctic ice sheet. That
would not only explain a lot about the link between past sea levels
and past temperatures in Earth's history -- it would further
illuminate the future we're heading toward.<br>
<font size="-1"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/energy-environment/2018/09/20/antarctica-warming-could-fuel-disastrous-sea-level-rise-study-finds/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e44121d7248e">https://www.washingtonpost.com/energy-environment/2018/09/20/antarctica-warming-could-fuel-disastrous-sea-level-rise-study-finds/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e44121d7248e</a></font><br>
<br>
<br>
[Risks of a consensus report]<br>
<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/sep/23/scientists-changing-global-warming-report-please-polluters">Climate
study 'pulls punches' to keep polluters on board</a></b><br>
'True risks' of warming played down to placate fossil-fuel nations<br>
Warnings about the dangers of global warming are being watered down
in the final version of a key climate report for a major
international meeting next month, according to reviewers who have
studied earlier versions of the report and its summary.<br>
- - - -<br>
They say scientists working on the final draft of the summary are
censoring their own warnings and "pulling their punches" to make
policy recommendations seem more palatable to countries - such as
the US, Saudi Arabia and Australia - that are reluctant to cut
fossil-fuel emissions, a key cause of global warming. "Downplaying
the worst impacts of climate change has led the scientific authors
to omit crucial information from the summary for policymakers," said
one reviewer, Bob Ward, policy director at the Grantham Research
Institute on Climate Change and the Environment.<br>
"However, if governments do not recognise the full scale and urgency
of the risks, they may underestimate how critical it is to meet the
goal of the Paris agreement on climate change. And that could have
very serious knock-on effects in the battle to limit the impact of
global warming."<br>
The Special Report on Global Warming of 1.5C and its summary for
policymakers were commissioned by governments following the UN
meeting in Paris in 2015, when it was agreed to act to limit
increases in global average temperature to less than 2C above
pre-industrial levels and to try keep that increase nearer to 1.5C.<br>
The report - to be presented at a meeting in Korea in early October
- will make clear that allowing temperatures to rise by 2C will have
devastating consequences, including rising sea levels, spreading
deserts, loss of natural habitats and species, dwindling ice-caps
and increases in the number of devastating storms.<br>
However, it is the report's summary for policymakers that is causing
concern. This is the document politicians will use as a key climate
guide when making changes to legislation. Reviewers of earlier
drafts say it is being altered to make the dangers of climate change
seem less alarming. As a result, they say, policymakers could
seriously underestimate the risks of global warming. <b>Cuts made
to the final draft of the summary include:</b><b><br>
</b>
<blockquote><b>- Any mention that temperature rises of above 1.5C
could lead to increased migrations and conflict;</b><b><br>
</b><b>- All discussion of the danger of the Gulf Stream being
disrupted by cold water flowing from the Arctic where more and
more sea-ice is melting;</b><b><br>
</b><b>- Warnings about the dangers that 1.5-2C temperature rises
could trigger irreversible loss of the Greenland ice sheet and
raise sea levels by 1-2 metres over the next two centuries.</b><b><br>
</b></blockquote>
<b>Other cuts from the summary include the sentence: "Poverty and
disadvantage have increased with recent warming (about 1C) and are
expected to increase in many populations as average global
temperatures increase from 1C to 1.5C and beyond."</b><br>
<br>
The original summary also stated "at 2C warming, there is a
potential for significant population displacement concentrated in
the tropics". Again this is not mentioned in the report for
policymakers. "The scientists who produce reports like these try to
summarise the latest knowledge, but they have a reputation for being
conservative about the worst risks of climate change," Ward said.
"This time they have outdone themselves in pulling their punches,
however."<br>
<br>
An IPCC spokesman said member governments would work to ensure the
summary for policymakers was consistent with the findings in the
main report. "They may change the wording of text there to clarify,
remove material from the summary for policymakers, or bring material
from the main report that was not there at the start of the session.
Any text in the summary for policymakers…is based on the assessment
in the main report. Even if it is removed from the summary for
policymakers, the finding it is based on remains in the main
report."<br>
<font size="-1"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/sep/23/scientists-changing-global-warming-report-please-polluters">https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/sep/23/scientists-changing-global-warming-report-please-polluters</a></font><br>
<br>
<br>
[Andrea Mitchell asks]<br>
<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://climatecrocks.com/2018/09/23/al-gore-on-florence-democracy-and-denial/">Al
Gore on Florence, Democracy and Denial</a></b><br>
September 23, 2018<br>
Conservative's pathological hatred of Al Gore is based on the deep
seated recognition that George Bush, who was handed the Presidency
with a minority vote, (due to a Supreme Court judges his Father had
appointed) was, until recently, the worst President ever.<br>
<blockquote><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqbCuedDlNI">Former VP Al
Gore: 'This Experiment With Trumpism Is Not Going Well' | Andrea
Mitchell | MSNBC</a><br>
MSNBC<br>
Published on Sep 18, 2018<br>
NBC News' Andrea Mitchell sat down with former Vice President Al
Gore to discuss storms and rising sea levels, President Trump's
Puerto Rico comments, trade penalties and more. Gore also weighs
in on President Trump's war with the justice department. "We have
gone through worse times. We have bounced back before," he said.
"These elections this November may turn out to be the beginning of
a course correction."<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqbCuedDlNI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqbCuedDlNI</a><br>
</blockquote>
The only psychological resolution for them is that Al Gore has to be
a demon.<br>
It's irrational, but its all they have.<font size="-1"><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://climatecrocks.com/2018/09/23/al-gore-on-florence-democracy-and-denial/">https://climatecrocks.com/2018/09/23/al-gore-on-florence-democracy-and-denial/</a></font><br>
<br>
<br>
[First time ever]<br>
<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/national-weather-service-10-tornadoes-touched-down-in-virginia-monday">National
Weather Service: 10 tornadoes touched down in Virginia Monday</a></b><br>
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- The National Weather Service has confirmed
that a total of 10 tornadoes spawned by Hurricane Florence touched
down in Virginia on Monday.<br>
The Richmond Times-Dispatch reports that the weather service's
office in Wakefield, Virginia, increased the total from eight to 10
after assessment teams determined that two additional tornadoes
struck Richmond.<br>
<font size="-1"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/national-weather-service-10-tornadoes-touched-down-in-virginia-monday">http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/national-weather-service-10-tornadoes-touched-down-in-virginia-monday</a></font><br>
<br>
<br>
[California wildfires]<br>
<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wildfiretoday.com/2018/09/22/217-scientists-sign-letter-opposing-logging-as-a-response-to-wildfires/">217
scientists sign letter opposing logging as a response to
wildfires</a></b><br>
The House version of the 2018 Farm Bill would expand logging on
public lands<br>
One of the favorite responses of some politicians to devastating
wildfires is to call for increased logging on public lands. Their
reasoning is that having fewer trees will prevent large fires. The
fact is that logging does not eliminate forest fires -- there is
still fuel remaining, some of which can spread a fire faster than a
forested area and can act as spot fire traps with dry, easily
ignitable vegetation that is even more susceptible to propagating a
fire from airborne burning embers up to a mile away from the main
fire.<br>
- the letter reads <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://forestlegacies.org/images/scientist-letters/scientist-letter-wildfire-signers-2018-08-27_1.pdf">https://forestlegacies.org/images/scientist-letters/scientist-letter-wildfire-signers-2018-08-27_1.pdf</a><br>
The House version of the 2018 Farm Bill being considered now would
expand logging on public lands in response to recent increases in
wildfires. A group of 217 scientists, educators, and land managers <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://forestlegacies.org/images/scientist-letters/scientist-letter-wildfire-signers-2018-08-27_1.pdf">have
signed an open letter</a> calling on decision makers to facilitate
a civil dialogue and careful consideration of the science to ensure
that any policy changes will result in communities being protected
while safeguarding essential ecosystem processes.<br>
Below is an excerpt from the scientists' letter:<br>
<blockquote><b>Thinning Is Ineffective in Extreme Fire Weather... </b><b><br>
</b><b> Post-disturbance Salvage Logging Reduces Forest Resilience
and Can Raise Fire Hazards...</b><b><br>
</b><b> Wilderness and Other Protected Areas Are Not Especially
Fire Prone...</b><br>
</blockquote>
For these reasons, we urge you to reject misplaced logging proposals
that will damage our environment, hinder climate mitigation goals,
and will fail to protect communities from wildfire.<br>
<font size="-1"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wildfiretoday.com/2018/09/22/217-scientists-sign-letter-opposing-logging-as-a-response-to-wildfires/">https://wildfiretoday.com/2018/09/22/217-scientists-sign-letter-opposing-logging-as-a-response-to-wildfires/</a></font><br>
- - - - <br>
[An excellent video]<br>
Wildfire Today<br>
<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wildfiretoday.com/2018/09/22/how-fighting-wildfires-works/">How
fighting wildfires works</a></b><br>
Author: Bill Gabbert<br>
This video, intended for those unacquainted with the subject, does a
good job of explaining how firefighters control wildfires.<br>
Video <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://youtu.be/EodxubsO8EI">https://youtu.be/EodxubsO8EI</a><br>
top comment:<br>
One thought on "How fighting wildfires works"<br>
Walt Penni says:<br>
<blockquote>There should be a bench mark as to how far away the land
in and around poorest communities should focus on a constantly
maintenance the fuel break and prescribed burning. That also
includes dead limbing.all types of trees within the designated
zone per size of the Forest community. we can live responsibly in
the urban Wildland interface if we take the necessary steps to
ensure that communities are safe from the ravages of extreme
wildfire. The forest floor is very deep with decades upon decades
of build up of dead and dying vegetation. Coupled with the ladder
fuels that help fire spread to the larger vegetation finally
reached the forest canopy at that time making the fire at the most
difficult point to try and control. Put the responsibility of
removing dead bug kill and disease stands to the respective land
owners, Federal, State agencies. Lumber conglomerates like Sierra
Pacific Industries, Warehouser and all the other big-name lumber
companies that own forest land should be put in charge of removing
those trees it's in their own best interest to do so. Fire
Fighters should be tasked to dealing with having to go against
these monsters for lack in many respects of much better Forest
practices that can and do work. I believe that the 217 scientists
need to get out of the lab and take a walk in the forest. Take a
walk through a groove of bug kill trees. Logging is inevitable in
many of these scenarios. Logging operations need to step up and be
better about clearing the slash off the forest floor from a
logging operation have that stuff gathered up and reduced to its
smallest component and reused elsewhere not just leave it laying
around hoping it will rot away it does but it takes time time that
the forest really doesn't have to wait for someone to come along
and clean it up. The condition of the forest is all of our
responsibility to make better not stand firm on being against one
form of dealing with the issue. There are many methods to help
with the problem and many areas where one type of operation may
not be the answer where it might be in another. September 22, 2018
<br>
</blockquote>
<font size="-1"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wildfiretoday.com/2018/09/22/how-fighting-wildfires-works/">https://wildfiretoday.com/2018/09/22/how-fighting-wildfires-works/</a><br>
video: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://youtu.be/EodxubsO8EI">https://youtu.be/EodxubsO8EI</a><br>
</font><br>
<br>
<font size="+1"><b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.climate-debate.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-address-to-the-united-nations-on-global-climate-change-r6.php">This
Day in Climate History - September 24, 2007</a> - from D.R.
Tucker</b></font><br>
September 24, 2007: California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
addresses the United Nations on his state's efforts to reduce carbon
pollution.<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.climate-debate.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-address-to-the-united-nations-on-global-climate-change-r6.php">http://www.climate-debate.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-address-to-the-united-nations-on-global-climate-change-r6.php</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://youtu.be/LnPNvIHqaRo">http://youtu.be/LnPNvIHqaRo</a><br>
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