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<font size="+2"><i><b>December 30, 2022</b></i></font><br>
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<i>[ small list and a video] </i><br>
<b>These lies about climate change just wouldn't die in 2022</b><br>
Elizabeth Weise<br>
USA TODAY<br>
Dec 29, 2022<br>
<blockquote>- - Climate change hasn't always been so polarizing and
even today relatively few Americans deny global warming is real.<br>
- - Experts say easily disprovable narratives about the climate
keeps circulating.<br>
- - These lies and distortions target renewable energy, economics
and political polarization.<br>
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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/justthefaqs/2022/12/14/scientists-made-breakthrough-fusion-energy-heres-what-means/10897142002/">https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/justthefaqs/2022/12/14/scientists-made-breakthrough-fusion-energy-heres-what-means/10897142002/</a></p>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/12/29/global-warming-myths-disinformation-and-lies-circulated-2022/10802959002/">https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/12/29/global-warming-myths-disinformation-and-lies-circulated-2022/10802959002/</a><br>
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<i>[ Global News - YouTube video 18 mins the New Realit</i>y ]<br>
<b>Climate change, Russian aggression make for a perfect storm in
Canada’s north</b><br>
Global News<br>
110,772 views Premiered Nov 12, 2022 #GlobalNews #climatechange<br>
As climate change reshapes our planet, the geopolitical landscape is
also changing. <br>
<br>
In Canada’s north, the melting ice has led to a power play for
influence and resources. Russian aggression on the world stage has
created new and urgent attention on the security of Canada’s Arctic.
<br>
<br>
Earlier this fall, a Canadian navy icebreaker sailed to an area in
the far north for the first time. <br>
<br>
For this week’s episode of The New Reality, Jeff Semple spent time
on board as the crew navigated uncharted waters.<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5GdlEQkOfU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5GdlEQkOfU</a><br>
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<i>[ lessons in deception and disinformation classroom study --
YouTube - lecture - it is rare to have a denialist stand to
justify his work ]</i><br>
<b>Scientific Certainties and Uncertainties in our Climate Future -
Steven Koonin and David Romps</b><br>
BerkeleyNUC<br>
16,366 views Sep 7, 2022<br>
Society’s response to the changing climate expresses values and
priorities in balancing factors like risk, development, and equity.
These choices are best informed by scientific understanding. This <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieGcx3IXSBY">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieGcx3IXSBY</a><br>
<p>- -</p>
<i>[ Koonin is boring and seems to deploy academic confusion.
DeSmog Database of Deniers has a listing for Steve Koonin -- clips
below <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.desmog.com/steve-koonin/">https://www.desmog.com/steve-koonin/</a>]</i><br>
<b>Steve Koonin</b><br>
Credentials<br>
Ph.D., Theoretical Physics, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
(1975).1<br>
B.S., Physics, California Institute of Technology (1972).2<br>
Stance on Climate Change<br>
October 25, 2021<br>
<br>
The following is from a a PragerU video titled “Is There Really a
Climate Emergency?” featuring Koonin:12<br>
“Hubris is a Greek word that means dangerously overconfident. Based
on my research, hubris fairly describes our current response to the
issue of climate change.<br>
<br>
“Here’s what many people believe:<br>
“One: The planet is warming catastrophically because of certain
human behaviors. <br>
<br>
“Two: Thanks to powerful computers we can project what the climate
will be like 20, 40, or even 100 years from now.<br>
<br>
“Three: That if we eliminate just one behavior, the burning of
fossil fuels, we can prevent the climate from changing for as long
we like.<br>
<br>
“Each of these presumptions—together, the basis of our hubris
regarding the changing climate—is either untrue or so far off the
mark as to be useless. <br>
<br>
“Yes, it’s true that the globe is warming, and that humans are
exerting a warming influence upon it. But beyond that, to paraphrase
a line from the classic movie The Princess Bride, ‘I do not think
“The Science” says what you think it says.” <br>
September 19, 2014<br>
<br>
Koonin wrote an article at The Wall Street Journal titled “Climate
Science Is Not Settled.” Some excerpted quotes below:13<br>
“The idea that ‘Climate science is settled’ runs through today’s
popular and policy discussions. Unfortunately, that claim is
misguided. It has not only distorted our public and policy debates
on issues related to energy, greenhouse-gas emissions and the
environment.”<br>
[…]<br>
“The crucial scientific question for policy isn’t whether the
climate is changing. That is a settled matter: The climate has
always changed and always will. […] Nor is the crucial question
whether humans are influencing the climate. That is no hoax: There
is little doubt in the scientific community that continually growing
amounts of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, due largely to
carbon-dioxide emissions from the conventional use of fossil fuels,
are influencing the climate. There is also little doubt that the
carbon dioxide will persist in the atmosphere for several centuries.
The impact today of human activity appears to be comparable to the
intrinsic, natural variability of the climate system itself.<br>
<br>
“Rather, the crucial, unsettled scientific question for policy is,
‘How will the climate change over the next century under both
natural and human influences?’”<br>
[…]<br>
“Even though human influences could have serious consequences for
the climate, they are physically small in relation to the climate
system as a whole.”<br>
[…]<br>
“We often hear that there is a ‘scientific consensus’ about climate
change. But as far as the computer models go, there isn’t a useful
consensus at the level of detail relevant to assessing human
influences.”<br>
[…]<br>
“Policy makers and the public may wish for the comfort of certainty
in their climate science. But I fear that rigidly promulgating the
idea that climate science is “settled” (or is a “hoax”) demeans and
chills the scientific enterprise, retarding its progress in these
important matters.”<br>
<br>
<b>Key Quotes</b><br>
April 20, 2017<br>
<p>“The outcome of a Red/Blue exercise for climate science is not
preordained, which makes such a process all the more valuable. It
could reveal the current consensus as weaker than claimed.
Alternatively, the consensus could emerge strengthened if Red Team
criticisms were countered effectively. But whatever the outcome,
we scientists would have better fulfilled our responsibilities to
society, and climate policy discussions would be better informed,”
Koonin wrote in the Wall Street Journal.</p>
<b>Key Actions</b><br>
February 11, 2022<br>
Koonin appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience where he argued “that
the data show that the climate is changing, that it is man-made, and
that it is happening slowly enough that we have time to adapt to the
changes. He says that policy makers, the media, and scientists need
to examine the data honestly and stop the alarmism,” according to
the American Enterprise Institute‘s description of the podcast.15<br>
October 25, 2021<br>
- -<br>
Koonin was featured in a PragerU video titled “Is There Really a
Climate Emergency?” where he claimed it is “hubris” and “either
untrue or so far off the mark as to be useless” that “the planet is
warming catastrophically because of certain human behaviors,” that
we can project climate change from models, or that we can prevent
the climate from changing.16<br>
Transcript below:<br>
“Hubris is a Greek word that means dangerously overconfident. Based
on my research, hubris fairly describes our current response to the
issue of climate change.<br>
<br>
“Here’s what many people believe:<br>
<blockquote>“One: The planet is warming catastrophically because of
certain human behaviors.<br>
<br>
“Two: Thanks to powerful computers we can project what the climate
will be like 20, 40, or even 100 years from now.<br>
<br>
“Three: That if we eliminate just one behavior, the burning of
fossil fuels, we can prevent the climate from changing for as long
we like.<br>
<br>
“Each of these presumptions—together, the basis of our hubris
regarding the changing climate—is either untrue or so far off the
mark as to be useless.<br>
</blockquote>
“Yes, it’s true that the globe is warming, and that humans are
exerting a warming influence upon it. But beyond that, to paraphrase
a line from the classic movie The Princess Bride, ‘I do not think
“The Science” says what you think it says.’<br>
- -<br>
“For example, government reports state clearly that heat waves in
the US are now no more common than they were in 1900.<br>
- -<br>
“Hurricane activity is no different than it was a century ago.<br>
- -<br>
“Floods have not increased across the globe over more than seventy
years.<br>
- -<br>
“Greenland’s ice sheet isn’t shrinking any more rapidly today than
it was 80 years ago.<br>
- -<br>
“Why aren’t these reassuring facts better known?<br>
- -<br>
“Because the public gets its climate information almost exclusively
from the media.<br>
- -<br>
“And from a media perspective, fear sells.<br>
- -<br>
“‘Things aren’t that bad’ doesn’t sell.<br>
- -<br>
“Very few people, and that includes journalists who report on
climate news, read the actual science. I have. And what the data—the
hard science—from the US government and UN Climate reports say is
that… ‘things aren’t that bad.’<br>
- -<br>
“Nor does the public understand the questionable basis of all
catastrophic climate change projections: computer modeling.<br>
- -<br>
“Projecting future climate is excruciatingly difficult. Yes, there
are human influences, but the climate is complex. Anyone who says
that climate models are “just physics” either doesn’t understand
them or is being deliberately misleading. I should know: I wrote one
of the first textbooks on computer modeling.<br>
- -<br>
“While modelers base their assumptions upon both fundamental
physical laws and observations of the climate, there is still
considerable judgment involved. And since different modelers will
make different assumptions, results vary widely among different
models.<br>
- -<br>
“Let’s just take one simple, but significant assumption modelers
must make: the impact of clouds on the climate.<br>
- -<br>
“Natural fluctuations in the height and coverage of clouds have at
least as much of an impact on the flows of sunlight and heat as do
human influences. But how can we possibly know global cloud coverage
say 10, let alone 50 years from now? Obviously, we can’t. But to
create a climate model, we have to make assumptions. That’s a pretty
shaky foundation on which to transform the world’s economy.<br>
- -<br>
“By the way, creating more accurate models isn’t getting any easier.
In fact, the more we learn about the climate system, the more we
realize how complex it is.<br>
- -<br>
“Rather than admit this complexity, the media, the politicians, and
a good portion of the climate science community attribute every
terrible storm, every flood, every major fire to ‘climate change.’
Yes, we’ve always had these weather events in the past, the
narrative goes, but somehow ‘climate change’ is making everything
‘worse.’<br>
- -<br>
“Even if that were true, isn’t the relevant question, how much
worse? Not to mention that ‘worse’ is not exactly a scientific term.<br>
- -<br>
“And how would we make it better?<br>
“For the alarmists, that’s easy: we get rid of fossil fuels.<br>
- -<br>
“Not only is this impractical—we get over 80% of the world’s energy
from fossil fuels—it’s not scientifically possible. That’s because
CO2 doesn’t disappear from the atmosphere in a few days like, say,
smog. It hangs around for a really long time.<br>
- -<br>
“About 60 percent of any CO2 that we emit today will remain in the
atmosphere 20 years from now, between 30 and 55 percent will still
be there after a century, and between 15 and 30 percent will remain
after one thousand years.<br>
- -<br>
“In other words, it takes centuries for the excess carbon dioxide to
vanish from the atmosphere. So, any partial reductions in CO2
emissions would only slow the increase in human influences—not
prevent it, let alone reverse it.<br>
- -<br>
“CO2 is not a knob that we can just turn down to fix everything. We
don’t have that ability. To think that we do is… hubris.<br>
- -<br>
“Hubris leads to bad decisions.<br>
<br>
“A little humility and a little knowledge would lead to better ones.<br>
<br>
“I’m Steve Koonin, former Undersecretary for Science in the Obama
Administration, and author of Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells
Us, What It Doesn’t, and Why It Matters, for Prager University.”<br>
During the interview, Koonin claimed climate science is distorted by
the time in reaches the public.<br>
<br>
Steve Koonin: [00:03:56] What the public sees is that the end of a
long game of telephone that starts with that information, but goes
through the assessment reports to the summaries for policymakers in
those reports and then on to the media and ultimately to the
politicians and other people talking to the public. And there’s so
many opportunities and motives to distort what the real science says
that that’s why the public dialog often reminds me of what you hear
in The Princess Bride, where one character says, you know, you keep
using that word, but I don’t think it means what you think it means.
[00:04:34]<br>
<br>
On severe weather events, Koonin claimed looking at the records
showed there is no human influence:<br>
<br>
Steve Koonin: [00:10:25] You can do the same sort of thing for
record high temperatures in the U.S., which are not increasing over
the U.S. as a whole. You can do the same for hurricanes. And that’s
one that really surprises people. The official reports say there are
no human influence. I’m sorry. The right way to say is that there
are no detectable long term trends in almost all hurricane
properties. [00:10:51]<br>
<br>
Koonin claimed variations in sea ice are not caused by man:<br>
<br>
Steve Koonin: [00:12:31] On the other hand, as I mentioned in the
book and you quoted when you look at the rate at which Greenland is
losing ice, it’s highly variable and it was high in the 30s and then
it was going and then it was high again, even as the globe was
warming steadily. So there’s very likely a large natural variability
in the ice sheets. And you’ve got to take that into account as a
scientist, if you’re going to say it’s humans that are causing the
recent melting. [00:13:07]<br>
<br>
Steve Koonin: [00:13:25] The other thing to say is that if the ice
started to melt, all expectations are it would be quite gradual and
we would have plenty of time, even according to the IPCC reports.
[00:13:39]<br>
<br>
<b>He criticized the IPCC’s analysis of sea level rise:</b><br>
<blockquote>Steve Koonin: [00:16:30] The important thing to
understand about sea level is not that it’s rising. It’s been
doing that for 15000 years. The real question is whether it’s
rising more rapidly in recent decades because of human influence
as opposed to its natural rate. And the IPCC, while it talks about
how the rate in the last few decades is a lot greater than the
average in the 20th century and so on, they entirely do not
mention, let alone show, a graph showing you that around 1940 it
was rising almost as rapidly as it is today, and then it went
through a minimum and now is rising rapidly. Again, I would say I
fail the student if they did that, because that is not at all an
honest presentation of the data and they get away with it.
[00:17:23]<br>
</blockquote>
<b>Koonin further questioned interpretations of the recent IPCC
reports:</b><br>
Steve Koonin: [00:21:01] So by and large, you see these kind of
apocalyptic predictions or statements coming from non-scientists,
you know, with the release of the recent U.N. report, Guterres said
code red for Humanity. But if you actually read the report, it
doesn’t say that at all. And so these are people who are making a
gloss on science that they don’t understand in order to again
persuade or motivate people. [00:21:31]<br>
- -<br>
Steve Koonin: [00:21:32] When you read more deeply in the reports,
as opposed to people who are trying to interpret the reports, you
also discover that you know there’s a lot of fudging going on. […]
[00:21:44]<br>
- -<br>
Steve Koonin: [00:22:13] The world has more than enough food right
now, and you can bet that we will be able to adapt just fine as the
climate changes slowly. […]The same is true of deaths. People make
outrageous projections using extreme emissions scenarios and very
sensitive models, and then just report the a little bit in the
media. [00:22:42]<br>
- -<br>
Later quoting H.L. Mencken, Koonin lists immigration, vaccination,
and climate among “an endless series of hobgoblins” to “keep the
populace alarmed”:<br>
- -<br>
Steve Koonin: [00:24:21] I’ll read the quote. “The whole aim of
practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed and hence cameras
to be led to safety by menacing it with an endless series of
hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.” And you see this played out.
Not only was climate poor here in the US with immigration, with
vaccination. You can go on whatever the issue of the day is.
[00:24:48]<br>
- -<br>
Steve Koonin: [00:24:49] And you know, politicians need to motivate
people and the strongest motivator is fear. Probably the next is
greed after that and then may be lost, but the politicians don’t get
involved with that last one. And so, you know, it’s natural for the
politicians to do that. And climate is such a great motivator
because it’s diffuse. It’s out there in the future. And to the
extent that it involves energy, it touches just about everything
that society does. So how could you resist, right? What disappoints
me most are the scientists who know better, who remain silent while
the issue is exaggerated and played up for fear. [00:25:36]<br>
- -<br>
<b>Koonin suggested climate science has been “corrupted” by
activists:</b><br>
Steve Koonin: [00:30:47] I really think that the climate scene has
been corrupted by some scientists. You know, in fact, a small
minority who have shifted over to an activist mode and are doing
activism under the mantle of science. [00:31:06]<br>
<br>
<b>Koonin described the idea of Net Zero as “immoral” for the
developing world:</b><br>
Steve Koonin: [00:33:39] If the world were to go to net zero by 2050
is being allocated by many politicians in the UK, the US and more
broadly. Nobody ever answers the question of how are we going to get
adequate energy to the three billion people who do not have adequate
energy in the developing world? They need that energy to develop who
is going to provide that? If you can’t do coal and gas because those
are the most inexpensive and convenient ways of getting them the
energy right now. And until you answer that question, advocating for
net zero is frankly immoral, in my view. [00:34:21]<br>
<br>
He later expanded on this:<br>
Steve Koonin: [00:35:31] Eco imperialism is a term I’ve heard people
use for that. And again, I think it’s immoral, [00:35:38][6.5]<br>
<br>
Koonin added his views changed when working with BP:<br>
Steve Koonin: [00:36:08] I did not have the kind of global
understanding I have now until I got into a big international
company like BP. [00:36:17]<br>
<br>
October 1, 2021<br>
Koonin joined the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) as a
nonresident senior fellow “focusing on climate science and energy
policy studies.”18 19...<br>
- - clips -- more at DeSmog listing <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.desmog.com/steve-koonin/">https://www.desmog.com/steve-koonin/</a><br>
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<i>[The news archive - looking back at past deceptions ]</i><br>
<font size="+2"><i><b>December 30, 2015</b></i></font> <br>
December 30, 2015:<br>
<br>
In a Washington Post op-ed, Martin Luther King III observes:<br>
<br>
"For months now, the National Black Chamber of Commerce has been<br>
warning communities of color that the Obama administration’s Clean<br>
Power Plan will cause job losses and generate higher energy bills.<br>
<br>
"In fact, the opposite is true.<br>
<br>
"The Environmental Protection Agency’s first-ever limits on carbon<br>
pollution from power plants will create clean- energy jobs, improve<br>
public health, bring greater reliability to our electric power grid,<br>
bolster our national security, demonstrate the United States’
resolve<br>
to combat climate change and maybe even reduce our utility bills.<br>
<br>
"By limiting the emission of carbon dioxide, the Clean Power Plan
also<br>
will slow a main driver of extreme weather, which has inflicted<br>
widespread economic damage and human misery, including death.<br>
<br>
"That’s what the National Black Chamber of Commerce neglects to
mention.<br>
<br>
"Why? As it turns out, the money behind the chamber’s campaign comes<br>
from polluters who stand to gain if the Clean Power Plan is blocked.<br>
According to The Post, the chamber received more than $800,000 over<br>
the past decade from ExxonMobil, and among the sponsors of the
group’s<br>
national conference in August were other companies that oppose
strong<br>
action to combat climate change."<br>
<br>
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