Fw: {news} [usgp-coo] GP-US Proposal Results: ID 247 - Local ReferendaResolution for Divestment and Right of Return
Green Party-CT
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Thu Oct 12 16:35:56 EDT 2006
Folks,
I will address this issue this ONE time on here and wish people would post comments on the FORUM where it belongs.
Few things have been as divsive as the Middle East TO the Green Party. Our National Platform has very strong statements that many people, (many Green people) claim says one thing or another about the Middle East.
This state party has suffered outrageous statements because outside people do not like it..one way or another..too strong..not strong enough.
Horton-Scheff claimed she left the party because we spent too much time on the issue. Nader was attacked over and over on the issue.
Many, many National Greens ABSTAINED on this vote (24..one of the largest totals i have ever seen!) with 15 voting no.,,So in effect 39 against or Not for the vote and 38 for..not a clear consensus at all!
Questions- How do we discusss these issues and not offend, or drive away possible members?
Give our past history of fighting and agrueing on the issue..what would make a new discussion different? Who would lead it? Could we get any thing CLOSE to consenus?
I would welcome constructive suggestions to the FORUM list serve for after the elections meetings.
Tim McKee
CT National Committee
ctgp-forum at ml.greens.org
stine McCabe <justinemccabe at earthlink.net> wrote:
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mailto://ctgp-news-unsubscribe@ml.greens.org Tim and Charlie,
I very much appreciate your new resolve to inform us about proposals coming before the NC. However, the point of my earlier post was to urge you to inform us before the vote-- not after you have already voted-- so that you can receive the imput from your GPCT constituents upon which your vote will presumably be based.
In that I remind you of the enormous frustration we all feel when our US congressional representatives vote against the wishes of the majority of Americans who oppose the war in Iraq, want single payer health insurance, and US compliance with the Kyoto treaty (among others). As far as I know, I am the only person who expressed an opinion on Proposal 247 (in the affirmative). How is it that you both voted NO without taking that into account, or presenting the pros and cons of the issue, or of soliciting the opinions of other GPCT members? For example, I would like you to explain what is "lopsided" about this proposal.
Given the GP's intention to be grassroots-based, "open and transparent," I understand your responsibility to your constituents as representatives to the NC does not mean that you are simply empowered to vote your personal opinion but to solicit the wishes of your GPCT constituents on the issues coming before the NC and to vote according to that imput.
I look forward to learning in advance about new GPUS proposals in advance of the vote as well as your solicitation of our
views on them.
Regards,
Justine McCabe
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Dear Green Folks,
Many, many Greens voted no or abstained from this proposal. Both Charlie and I voyed against it. I feel it was too lopsided, but you may read the whole proposal on the link below.
If you feel you would like to dicuss this.. the forum is the place to do so..not the newslist serve.. (posting to both sites). >>> ctgp-forum at ml.greens.org. <<<<
Tim McKee
voting at gpus.org wrote: Date: 9 Oct 2006 07:05:02 -0000
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To: natlcomvotes at green.gpus.org
Subject: [usgp-coo] GP-US Proposal Results: ID 247 - Local Referenda
Resolution for Divestment and Right of Return
Voting for the following proposal is now closed. Here are the results:
Proposal ID: 247
Proposal: Local Referenda Resolution for Divestment and Right of Return
Floor Manager: Jody Grage, jody at gp.org
Discussion: 09/18/2006 - 10/01/2006
Voting: 10/02/2006 - 10/08/2006
Result: Adopted
77 Total Votes Received from 38 States/Caucuses
Presens Quorum: 32 0.6666 of 48 Accredited States/Caucuses
Consens Quorum: 27 A Majority of 53 Yes and No Votes
Yes: 38
No: 15
Abstain: 24
Yes: Gene Hunter - Alabama
Abstain: Andrew Spencer - Arizona
Abstain: Donna Werley - Arkansas
Abstain: Anita Wessling - Arkansas
No: Leslie Bonett - California
Yes: Marilyn Ditmanson - California
No: Sanda Everette - California
Yes: Chuck Giese - California
Yes: Fred Hosea - California
Yes: Jared Laiti - California
No: Steve Loebs - California
Yes: Kent Mesplay - California
Yes: Donna Warren - California
Yes: Cat Woods - California
No: Tim McKee - Connecticut
No: Charlie Pillsbury - Connecticut
Abstain: David McCorquodale - Delaware
Abstain: Nikolas Schiller - District of Columbia
Yes: Julia Aires - Florida
Abstain: Barbara Rodgers-Hendricks - Florida
No: Al Herman - Georgia
No: Frank Jeffers - Georgia
Abstain: Phil Huckelberry - Illinois
Abstain: Susan Rodgers - Illinois
No: Marc Sanson - Illinois
Abstain: Sarah Dillon - Indiana
Yes: Jeff Sutter - Indiana
Abstain: Florence Boos - Iowa
Abstain: Larry Orr - Iowa
Yes: Debbie McManus - Louisiana
Yes: Jacqui Deveneau - Maine
No: Karen Jennings - Maryland
Abstain: Steve Kramer - Maryland
Yes: Jamie McLaughlin - Massachusetts
Yes: Elie Yarden - Massachusetts
Yes: Linda Manning Myatt - Michigan
Yes: Louis Novak - Michigan
Yes: Karen Shelley - Michigan
Yes: Aimee L. Smith - Michigan
Abstain: Eric Makela - Minnesota
Yes: Bill Oldfather - Minnesota
Yes: Gwendolyn Wages - Mississippi
Abstain: Tom McCormick - Nebraska
Yes: Paul Etxeberri - Nevada
Abstain: Paul Steven Juntunen - Nevada
Yes: Elizabeth Arnone - New Jersey
Yes: Mike Spector - New Jersey
No: Mato Ska - New Mexico
Yes: Howie Hawkins - New York
No: Margaret Human - New York
No: Roger Snyder - New York
Yes: J. Rebecca White - New York
Abstain: Jan Martell - North Carolina
Yes: Paul Dumochelle - Ohio
Yes: Laura Hampton - Ohio
Yes: Joni LeViness - Oklahoma
Yes: Huti Reynolds - Oklahoma
No: Marnie Glickman - Oregon
Abstain: Paul Loney - Oregon
Yes: Mike Rosenberg - Pennsylvania
Abstain: James DeBoer - Rhode Island
Abstain: Greg Gerritt - Rhode Island
Yes: John Miglietta - Tennessee
Yes: Howard Switzer - Tennessee
Abstain: Deanna Hayes - Texas
Abstain: Bill Holloway - Texas
Abstain: Alfred Molison - Texas
No: George Reiter - Texas
Yes: Thomas King - Utah
Yes: Eileen Olsen - Utah
Abstain: Steve Ekberg - Vermont
No: Audrey Clement - Virginia
Yes: Aram Falsafi - Washington
Yes: Mike Gillis - Washington
Yes: Jill Bussiere - Wisconsin
Yes: Jeff Peterson - Wisconsin
Abstain: Holly Hart - Women's Caucus
Full proposal details and results are online at:
http://gp.org/cgi-bin/vote/propresult?pid=247
Thank you and have a wonderful day!
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