{news} Re: CTGP-news Digest, Vol 43, Issue 8

Wed Feb 6 17:08:06 EST 2008

delegate will be chosen at the meeting this month, is
that correct? And if so can someone please forward a
list of candidates that are chosen as potential
Presidential Delegates.

The chose should be present at the meeting and would
need to make arrangements to be at the meeting. I put
my name down as a potential delegate and would like an
early notification of whether I will be need to attend
the next state party meeting.
Ralph Ferrucci

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> http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Returns/pres/grn/59.htm 
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>           President Green  85.8% ( 19835 of 23109 )
> precincts
> reporting as of Feb 6, 2008, at 3:39 a.m.
> County Returns   Other Contests    Statewide Results
>            View Map    Candidate  Votes  Percent    
>   Kent Mesplay (Grn)  518  2.1 %         Jared Ball
> (Grn)  398  1.6 %         Jesse Johnson (Grn)  457 
> 1.8 %         Kat Swift (Grn)  755  3.0 %        
> Ralph Nader (Grn)  15,113  61.6 %         Elaine
> Brown (Grn)  1,100  4.5 %         Cynthia McKinney
> (Grn)  6,218  25.4 %       
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> Questions They Weren't Asked
> The Great Clinton-Obama Debate
> 
> By RALPH NADER
> CounterPunch, February 2/3, 2008
> http://www.counterpunch.org/nader02022008.html
> 
> 
> It was billed as the great debate that, in the
> words of moderator Wolf Blitzer, "could change
> the course of this presidential race and the
> nation."
> 
> Situated at the packed Kodak Theatre -- site of
> the Hollywood Oscar awards -- thousands of
> people, including anti-war protesters, were
> outside, where tickets were being scalped for
> $1,000.
> 
> The burgeoning excitement swept up Mr. Blitzer
> into an introduction reminiscent of a heavyweight
> boxing title fight. Referring to the "glamour on
> this stage_one of the great stages of all time,"
> he declared that "this will be the first time
> that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama will be
> debating face to face, just the two of them,
> one-on-one." The crowd roared!
> 
> When it was over two hours later, here is how the
> reporters, not the columnists, of the New York
> Times described the showdown: "Senators Hillary
> Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama sat side by side
> here Thursday, sharing a night of smiles,
> friendly eye-catching and gentle banter_It was
> almost as if the battle was to see which of them
> could outnice the other."
> 
> Since neither scored a knockout, a knockdown, and
> neither stumbled, the audience left without many
> feeling the pain of their champion being bested.
> Even the Times' critic, Alessandra Stanley, she
> of the usual barbed pen, could only marvel at the
> smooth harmony ideology both candidates decided
> to adopt. She wrote: "They let their eyes make
> nice. As they stood in front of the audience
> before the debate, Mr. Obama leaned down to Mrs.
> Clinton and whispered a few words in her ear, as
> if continuing the fun chat they had just shared
> backstage."
> 
> The two candidates were unperturbed by any
> questions from the reporters that they had not
> answered before or they were soft balls they
> could hit out of the ball park.
> 
> As in all debates involving presidential
> candidates, the reporters were unwilling or
> incapable of asking questions reflecting
> situations and conditions widely reported or
> investigated by their own colleagues.
> 
> This phenomenon of invincible reluctance should
> be studied by anthropologists or psychologists.
> Examples follow:
> 
> I called up Chris Hedges, former New York Times
> Middle East bureau chief and author for a
> question he would have asked. He offered this
> one. 
> 
> "The Israeli government is imposing severe and
> continual collective punishment on the 1.5
> million people of tiny Gaza, which includes
> restricting or cutting off food, fuel,
> electricity, medicines and other necessities.
> Malnutrition rates among many children resemble
> the worst of sub-Saharan Africa. Israel's leading
> newspaper, Ha'aretz, has reporters and columnists
> describing these horrific conditions and
> concluding that the ferocity of the blockade is
> detrimental to Israel as well as the
> Palestinians.
> 
> "Collective punishment is clearly a violation of
> established international law. Prominent, former
> military, security and political leaders in
> Israel are speaking out against this punishment
> and calling for negotiations with Hamas. Do you,
> Senator Clinton and Senator Obama, agree with
> these Israelis or do you continue to support the
> policy of collective punishment against innocent
> men, women and children in Gaza?"
> 
> Alexander Cockburn, CounterPunch coeditor,
> suggested this question:
> 
> "Senator Clinton, in all your previous debates,
> you have not criticized the bloated military
> budget.The Soviet Union is gone. Yet military
> spending now consumes half of the federal
> government's operating expenditures.
> 
> "What would you do to reduce the tens of billions
> of wasted dollars and eliminate redundant weapons
> systems?
> 
> "And, further, would you abolish the missile
> defense project, now universally conceded to be
> useless for the purpose it was originally
> 
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