{news} Re: using RRO Re: [CTGREENPARTYNEWS]

Sun May 29 09:16:39 EDT 2011

Patricia, 
I appreciate your view.  In fact, besides the fact that it is more egalitarian and less hierarchical, consensus can be quite efficient, especially once people get the process and there is a good facilitator. 

I don't want to belabor this, but the consensus/modified consensus way of making decisions is no less a part of the Green Party ethos than the 4 pillars/10 key values.  That is, GPUS (and GPCT at least in the past) has been interested in changing the way decisions and power are shared as much as in the content of various GPUS policies.  Thus, Greens would argue that the particular "route" to our goals does matter. 

Justine

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Patricia Kane 
  To: Justine McCabe 
  Cc: Ken Krayeske ; CTGREENSNEWSLISTERVE NEWS ; CT Greens News 
  Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 4:22 PM
  Subject: Re: using RRO Re: [CTGREENPARTYNEWS]

  Justine:
              Many organizations have used RRO because it was designed to facilitate a democratic process. Usually the 
  people who don't like it don't take the time to learn how to use it.
              I'm sure we'll have a discussion on this proposal, but I for one would favor using RRO for a period of time and
  then re-evaluating the process to be used.
              Consensus is always desirable, but endless discussions can block action when needed. The SCC needs to be
  a place of action, not just discussion.
               I think there are many routes to the same goals.

  Patricia Kane

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  From: Justine McCabe <justinemccabe at earthlink.net>
  To: Michele Larocque <cobweb2 at comcast.net>
  Cc: wtcards at earthlink.net; CTGREENSNEWSLISTERVE NEWS <ctgreenparty at yahoogroups.com>; CT Greens News <ctgp-news at ml.greens.org>
  Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 3:50:02 PM
  Subject: No on using RRO Re: [CTGREENPARTYNEWS] Re: SCC Meeting Location and agenda for meeting - hope this works

  Hi Michele,

  I think you misunderstood me.  I oppose using Roberts Rules of Order, as does the Green Party of  the US, and heretofore, GPCT.  Again, as David Bedell indicated in his post, GPUS'  use of consensus/modified consensus was a very deliberate choice over RRO as a more democratic way of facilitating meetings and making decisions. Historically, it was incorporated early on in the formation.  I urge that we keep modified consensus decision making.

  Regards, 
  Justine   

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Michele Larocque 
    To: Justine McCabe 
    Cc: wtcards at earthlink.net ; CTGREENSNEWSLISTERVE NEWS ; CT Greens News 
    Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 3:19 PM
    Subject: Re: [CTGREENPARTYNEWS] Re: SCC Meeting Location and agenda for meeting - hope this works

    Hello Everyone.

    I will be at the meeting.  I agree with Justine, we should utilize Roberts Rules. That works for me.

    Michele Larocque

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Justine McCabe" <justinemccabe at earthlink.net>
    To: wtcards at earthlink.net, "CTGREENSNEWSLISTERVE NEWS" <ctgreenparty at yahoogroups.com>, "CT Greens News" <ctgp-news at ml.greens.org>
    Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:54:39 PM
    Subject: Re: [CTGREENPARTYNEWS] Re: SCC Meeting Location and agenda for meeting - hope this works

    Dear all, 

    Unfortunately I will not be able to attend the SCC meeting next Tuesday as I work until 7 pm.
    However, I do want to register a concern re: NEED TO ADOPT ROBERTS’ RULES OF ORDER (CURRENT EDITION)     

    The Green Party of the CT, in keeping with the Green Party of the US,  has long rejected Roberts Rules of Order as an unnecessarily hierarchical way of facilitation and instead, uses modified consensus in all its decision making.    Several year ago, in an effort to educate greens about this, the NW chapter hosted a daylong training on modified consensus with GPUS facilitator extraordinaire, Lynn Serpe from NY. 

    Anyway, for those of you new to the GP, this is not a little issue, but significant in terms of  process being the message.
    At some point, Judy Herkimer and I would be happy to provide an intro to this different way of making decisions.  It is one where consensus is the goal, and votes are taken only when there is a blocking concern from someone in the group. 

    Until then, I oppose the adoption of RRO for the GPCT.  

    Best regards, 
    Justine    

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Ronna Stuller 
      To: CTGREENSNEWSLISTERVE NEWS ; CT Greens News 
      Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:44 PM
      Subject: [CTGREENPARTYNEWS] Re: SCC Meeting Location and agenda for meeting - hope this works

      GREEN PARTY OF CT

      STATE COORDINATING COMMITTEE

      MAY 31, 2011
         MORY'S
      306 YORK STREET, NEW HAVEN, CT.
      6:30 PM

      AGENDA (90 MINUTES)

      APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PRIOR SCC MEETING                                                              5 min.                        

      1.  FINANCES

      TREASURER’S REPORT 2

      PROPOSED BUDGET FOR BALANCE OF 2011 (REQUIRES ACTION)  18
        Proposed budget
          Redesign Website         $  3,000.00
          Online Database              $  3,000.00
          Press/Communications   $  5,000.00
           Green Times                $  1,800.00
          Electoral Action               $10,000.00
          Membership Drive           $   4,000.00
          Misc./Contingency           $   3,200.00
          TOTAL:                            $30,000.00                             

      2. TRANSITION REPORT 

          KRAYESKE ON NEED FOR NEW INFRASTRUCTURE                                                15

         KANE ON RECORDS                                                                                                              1

      REILLY ON TREASURER’S OFFICE                                                                              5

      3. INVENTORY OF PARTY ASSETS BY STULLER                                                     10

      4.   BY-LAWS DISCUSSION

         NEED TO ADOPT ROBERTS’ RULES OF ORDER (CURRENT EDITION)               5

          NEED FOR ASSISTANT OR DEPUTY TREASURER                                                     5

            NEED FOR REVISED SCC PROCEDURES AND SCHEDULING                           15

      5.     CHAPTER  REPORTS                                                                                                              15

      6.    COMMITTEE REPORTS.                                                                                                  15

      7.     NEW BUSINESS.

               A. Ben Holden/Candidate nomination

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