{news} Re: using RRO Re: [CTGREENPARTYNEWS]
Michael Westerfield
westerfield at sysmatrix.net
Mon May 30 11:24:06 EDT 2011
I would argue that the consensus/modified consensus process is so central to
the nature of the Green Party that if the Connecticut Green Party abandoned
it in favor of Robert's Rules, then the group could no longer call itself a
Green Party. At the very least, the decision to change would be so
momentous that it should not be placed on a normal meeting Agenda, but
should be the subject of serious discussion and every attempt would have to
be made to give every CTGP member a chance to be involved in the discussion,
before placing it on the Agenda for the annual party convention/annual
meeting.
Michael Westerfield
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Justine McCabe <justinemccabe at earthlink.net
> wrote:
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> Patricia,
> I appreciate your view. In fact, besides the fact that it is more
> egalitarian and less hierarchical, consensus can be quite efficient,
> especially once people get the process and there is a good facilitator.
>
> I don't want to belabor this, but the consensus/modified consensus way of
> making decisions is no less a part of the Green Party ethos than the 4
> pillars/10 key values. That is, GPUS (and GPCT at least in the past) has
> been interested in changing the way decisions and power are shared as much
> as in the content of various GPUS policies. Thus, Greens would argue that
> the particular "route" to our goals does matter.
>
> Justine
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> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Patricia Kane <pmkk2001-gp at yahoo.com>
> *To:* Justine McCabe <justinemccabe at earthlink.net>
> *Cc:* Ken Krayeske <wtcards at earthlink.net> ; CTGREENSNEWSLISTERVE NEWS<ctgreenparty at yahoogroups.com>; CT
> Greens News <ctgp-news at ml.greens.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 27, 2011 4:22 PM
> *Subject:* Re: using RRO Re: [CTGREENPARTYNEWS]
>
> Justine:
> Many organizations have used RRO because it was designed to
> facilitate a democratic process. Usually the
> people who don't like it don't take the time to learn how to use it.
> I'm sure we'll have a discussion on this proposal, but I for
> one would favor using RRO for a period of time and
> then re-evaluating the process to be used.
> Consensus is always desirable, but endless discussions can
> block action when needed. The SCC needs to be
> a place of action, not just discussion.
> I think there are many routes to the same goals.
>
> Patricia Kane
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>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Justine McCabe <justinemccabe at earthlink.net>
> *To:* Michele Larocque <cobweb2 at comcast.net>
> *Cc:* wtcards at earthlink.net; CTGREENSNEWSLISTERVE NEWS <
> ctgreenparty at yahoogroups.com>; CT Greens News <ctgp-news at ml.greens.org>
> *Sent:* Fri, May 27, 2011 3:50:02 PM
> *Subject:* No on using RRO Re: [CTGREENPARTYNEWS] Re: SCC Meeting Location
> and agenda for meeting - hope this works
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> Hi Michele,
>
> I think you misunderstood me. I oppose using Roberts Rules of Order, as
> does the Green Party of the US, and heretofore, GPCT. Again, as David
> Bedell indicated in his post, GPUS' use of consensus/modified consensus was
> a very deliberate choice over RRO as a more democratic way of facilitating
> meetings and making decisions. Historically, it was incorporated early on in
> the formation. I urge that we keep modified consensus decision making.
>
>
> Regards,
> Justine
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Michele Larocque <cobweb2 at comcast.net>
> *To:* Justine McCabe <justinemccabe at earthlink.net>
> *Cc:* wtcards at earthlink.net ; CTGREENSNEWSLISTERVE NEWS<ctgreenparty at yahoogroups.com>; CT
> Greens News <ctgp-news at ml.greens.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 27, 2011 3:19 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [CTGREENPARTYNEWS] Re: SCC Meeting Location and agenda for
> meeting - hope this works
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I will be at the meeting. I agree with Justine, we should utilize Roberts
> Rules. That works for me.
>
> Michele Larocque
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Justine McCabe" <justinemccabe at earthlink.net>
> To: wtcards at earthlink.net, "CTGREENSNEWSLISTERVE NEWS" <
> ctgreenparty at yahoogroups.com>, "CT Greens News" <ctgp-news at ml.greens.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:54:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [CTGREENPARTYNEWS] Re: SCC Meeting Location and agenda for
> meeting - hope this works
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Unfortunately I will not be able to attend the SCC meeting next Tuesday as
> I work until 7 pm.
> However, I do want to register a concern re: NEED TO ADOPT ROBERTS’ RULES
> OF ORDER (CURRENT EDITION)
>
> The Green Party of the CT, in keeping with the Green Party of the US, has
> long rejected Roberts Rules of Order as an unnecessarily hierarchical way of
> facilitation and instead, uses modified consensus in all its decision
> making. Several year ago, in an effort to educate greens about this, the
> NW chapter hosted a daylong training on modified consensus with
> GPUS facilitator *extraordinaire*, Lynn Serpe from NY.
>
> Anyway, for those of you new to the GP, this is not a little issue, but
> significant in terms of process being the message.
> At some point, Judy Herkimer and I would be happy to provide an intro to
> this different way of making decisions. It is one where consensus is the
> goal, and votes are taken only when there is a blocking concern from someone
> in the group.
>
> Until then, I oppose the adoption of RRO for the GPCT.
>
> Best regards,
> Justine
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ronna Stuller <rstuller at snet.net>
> *To:* CTGREENSNEWSLISTERVE NEWS <ctgreenparty at yahoogroups.com> ; CT Greens
> News <ctgp-news at ml.greens.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:44 PM
> *Subject:* [CTGREENPARTYNEWS] Re: SCC Meeting Location and agenda for
> meeting - hope this works
>
>
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> GREEN PARTY OF CT
>
> STATE COORDINATING COMMITTEE
>
> MAY 31, 2011
> MORY'S
> 306 YORK STREET, NEW HAVEN, CT.
> 6:30 PM
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>
> *AGENDA (90 MINUTES)*
>
> **
>
> **
>
> APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PRIOR SCC MEETING
> 5 min.
>
>
>
> 1. FINANCES
>
> TREASURER’S REPORT 2
>
>
>
> PROPOSED BUDGET FOR BALANCE OF 2011 (REQUIRES ACTION) 18
> * Proposed budget*
> Redesign Website $ 3,000.00
> Online Database $ 3,000.00
> Press/Communications $ 5,000.00
> Green Times $ 1,800.00
> Electoral Action $10,000.00
> Membership Drive $ 4,000.00
> Misc./Contingency $ 3,200.00
> TOTAL: $30,000.00
>
>
>
>
> 2. TRANSITION REPORT
>
>
>
> KRAYESKE ON NEED FOR NEW INFRASTRUCTURE
> 15
>
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> KANE ON RECORDS
> 1
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> REILLY ON TREASURER’S OFFICE
> 5
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> 3. INVENTORY OF PARTY ASSETS BY STULLER
> 10
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> 4. BY-LAWS DISCUSSION
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> NEED TO ADOPT ROBERTS’ RULES OF ORDER (CURRENT EDITION) 5
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> NEED FOR ASSISTANT OR DEPUTY TREASURER
> 5
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> NEED FOR REVISED SCC PROCEDURES AND SCHEDULING
> 15
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> 5. CHAPTER REPORTS
> 15
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> 6. COMMITTEE REPORTS.
> 15
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> 7. NEW BUSINESS.
>
> * A. Ben Holden/Candidate nomination
> *
>
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