[✔️] September 11, 2023- Global Warming News Digest | Asking AI what we learned from 911, Wise men discussing oceans, 2001 - this is 911 - what did we learn

[Richard Pauli]

/*September 11*//*, 2023*/

/[ An AI question:  CPT-3.5 what did the 911 suspension of airline 
traffic teach us about climate ? ]/

*User*
*After 911, what did we learn about the atmosphere from the shutdown of 
all airline traffic?
*
ChatGPT

    The events following the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United
    States did lead to some unique opportunities for researchers to
    study the atmosphere due to the temporary shutdown of commercial
    airline traffic. However, it's important to note that the scientific
    findings from this period were limited and specific to certain
    aspects of atmospheric research.

    Here are a few key insights gained from the temporary shutdown of
    airline traffic:

    Air Quality and Pollution: One of the most immediate effects of
    grounding commercial flights was a noticeable improvement in air
    quality, particularly in major cities and near airports. Researchers
    observed reductions in air pollutants such as nitrogen oxides (NOx)
    and particulate matter. This demonstrated the significant
    contribution of aviation to air pollution in urban areas.

    Contrail Formation: The absence of contrails (short for condensation
    trails) caused by aircraft allowed scientists to study their impact
    on the atmosphere and climate. Contrails can influence local weather
    patterns and contribute to the greenhouse effect. Research during
    the flight shutdown period helped improve our understanding of the
    role of contrails in climate change.

    Temperature Variations: Scientists observed slight temperature
    variations during the temporary shutdown of airline traffic. The
    absence of contrails and their heat-trapping properties may have
    contributed to these changes. However, these variations were
    relatively small and not considered a significant climate impact.

    Aerosol Effects: Researchers also studied the impact of reduced
    aviation-related aerosol emissions on the atmosphere. Aerosols can
    influence cloud formation and properties. The shutdown provided a
    unique opportunity to investigate these effects, although the
    findings were preliminary and required further research.

    Noise Pollution: With fewer flights taking place, there was a
    noticeable reduction in noise pollution around airports and flight
    paths. This allowed for studies on the effects of aviation noise on
    human health and wildlife.

    It's important to emphasize that while the temporary shutdown of
    airline traffic provided valuable insights into various aspects of
    the atmosphere, these effects were relatively short-lived and
    localized. Long-term changes in atmospheric composition and climate
    are driven by much larger and complex factors, such as greenhouse
    gas emissions, volcanic eruptions, and natural climate variability.
    Therefore, while the event offered a unique opportunity for
    scientific observation, it did not lead to any major paradigm shifts
    in our understanding of the atmosphere.

*User**
**Really, are you going to pull up that tired old argument that volcanic 
eruptions cause global warming?   Give me a measurement of how much 
modern volcanic eruptions cause atmospheric heating. *

ChatGPT

    I apologize if my previous response was unclear. I did not suggest
    that volcanic eruptions cause global warming. Instead, I mentioned
    volcanic eruptions as one of the factors that can influence
    long-term changes in atmospheric composition and climate, along with
    greenhouse gas emissions and other natural climate variability.

    Volcanic eruptions can have a short-term cooling effect on the
    Earth's climate due to the release of sulfur dioxide (SO2) and other
    aerosols into the stratosphere. These aerosols can reflect sunlight
    back into space, leading to a temporary cooling of the planet.
    However, this cooling effect is typically short-lived, lasting for a
    few years at most.

    Modern volcanic eruptions, such as the 1991 eruption of Mount
    Pinatubo in the Philippines, did have measurable and temporary
    cooling effects on global temperatures. The Pinatubo eruption, for
    example, caused a drop in global average temperatures of
    approximately 0.5 to 0.6 degrees Celsius (0.9 to 1.1 degrees
    Fahrenheit) for a year or two following the eruption.

    To clarify, volcanic eruptions are not a significant driver of
    long-term global warming, but they can temporarily influence climate
    patterns in the years immediately following a major eruption. The
    primary driver of modern global warming is the increase in
    greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere due to human
    activities, particularly the burning of fossil fuels and
    deforestation. These activities trap heat in the Earth's atmosphere,
    leading to a long-term warming trend.


*User**
**How would you compare the halting of airliner traffic for 4 days to a 
4 day volcanic eruption like Mt St Helens*

ChatGPT

    The halting of airliner traffic for four days and a four-day
    volcanic eruption like the eruption of Mount St. Helens are two very
    different events with distinct impacts on the atmosphere and the
    environment. Here's a comparison:

    Halting of Airliner Traffic for Four Days:

    Impact on Air Quality: The temporary halt in airliner traffic, such
    as the one that occurred after the September 11, 2001 attacks,
    primarily affects air quality in the vicinity of airports and along
    flight paths. It can lead to a noticeable reduction in air
    pollutants like nitrogen oxides (NOx) and particulate matter during
    the suspension of flights.

    Contrail Formation: During the suspension of flights, there is a
    reduction in contrail formation, which can affect local weather
    patterns and radiation balance in the atmosphere. However, this
    effect is relatively short-lived and localized.

    Long-Term Climate Impact: The impact on long-term climate from a
    four-day suspension of airliner traffic is minimal. It may lead to
    short-term variations in temperature and atmospheric conditions but
    is not a significant driver of global climate change.

    Four-Day Volcanic Eruption (e.g., Mount St. Helens):

    Impact on Air Quality: A volcanic eruption releases large amounts of
    gases, ash, and aerosols into the atmosphere. These materials can
    have a significant impact on air quality, not only in the vicinity
    of the eruption but also over broader regions, depending on the size
    of the eruption.

    Climate Impact: Volcanic eruptions can have a more substantial and
    longer-lasting impact on climate compared to a brief suspension of
    airliner traffic. Eruptions release sulfur dioxide (SO2) into the
    stratosphere, which can lead to the formation of sulfuric acid
    aerosols that reflect sunlight. This can result in a temporary
    cooling effect on global temperatures for a period of months to a
    few years.

    Environmental Impact: Volcanic eruptions can cause direct
    environmental damage, including destruction of ecosystems,
    alteration of landscapes, and disruption of water bodies due to
    ashfall and pyroclastic flows.

    In summary, while both events have effects on the atmosphere and
    environment, a volcanic eruption like Mount St. Helens typically has
    a more significant and longer-lasting impact on climate and the
    environment compared to a brief suspension of airliner traffic.
    Volcanic eruptions can lead to noticeable cooling effects on global
    temperatures and have widespread environmental consequences due to
    the release of volcanic ash and gases. In contrast, the suspension
    of airline traffic primarily affects local air quality and has
    minimal long-term climate impact.

https://chat.openai.com/ /( give it a try - free -- maybe ask followup 
questions )/



[/  Some discussions youtube video  ]/
*Titanic Oceans: Daniel Pauly, Antonio Turiel, and Peter Ward | Reality 
Roundtable #4*
Nate Hagens
Sep 10, 2023  #thegreatsimplification #natehagens #oceans
On this Reality Roundtable, marine biologist Daniel Pauly, ocean 
physicist Antonio Turiel, and paleobiologist Peter Ward join Nate to 
discuss the numerous threats to the Earth’s great oceans. From 
overfishing to plastic pollution and climate change to acidification, 
the human system is assaulting one of the most important regulators for 
our climate and the largest habitat for life - anywhere. What early 
indicators of climate impacts are these great bodies of water showing us 
as we hit record heat across the oceans, fish populations dwindle, and 
major currents slow? Why are concerns for the ocean so overlooked and 
what further research needs to be done? Will we learn to value these 
high seas for all the priceless value they give us, or will we take them 
for granted until it’s too late?

About Daniel Pauly:

Dr. Daniel Pauly is a Killam Professor at the University of British 
Columbia. In 1999, Daniel Pauly founded, and since leads, a large 
research project, Sea Around Us, devoted to identifying and quantifying 
global fisheries trends. Daniel Pauly is also co-founder of 
FishBase.org, the online encyclopedia of more than 30,000 fish species, 
and he has helped develop the widely-used Ecopath modeling software. He 
is the author or co-author of over 1000 scientific and other articles, 
books and book chapters on fish, fisheries and related topics.

About Antonio Turiel:

Antonio Turiel Martínez is a scientist and activist with a degree in 
Physics and Mathematics and a PhD in Theoretical Physics from the 
Autonomous University of Madrid. He works as a senior scientist at the 
Institute of Marine Sciences of the CSIC specializing in remote sensing, 
turbulence, sea surface salinity, water cycle, sea surface temperature, 
sea surface currents, and chlorophyll concentration. He has written more 
than 80 scientific articles, but he is better known as an online 
activist and editor of The Oil Crash blog, where he addresses sensitive 
issues about the depletion of conventional fossil fuel resources, such 
as the peak of oil and its possible implications on a world scale.

About Peter Ward:

Peter Ward is a Professor of Biology and Earth and Space Sciences at the 
University of Washington. He is author of over a dozen books on Earth's 
natural history including On Methuselah's Trail: Living Fossils and the 
Great Extinctions; Under a Green Sky; and The Medea Hypothesis, 2009, 
(listed by the New York Times as one of the “100 most important ideas of 
2009”). Ward gave a TED talk in 2008 about mass extinctions.

/
/


/[The news archive - looking back]/
/*September 11, 2001 */
*September 11 attacks*
*September 11, 2001 at 5:14 AM PDT*

The September 11 attacks, commonly known as 9/11, were four coordinated 
Islamist suicide terrorist attacks carried out by al-Qaeda against the 
United States on Tuesday, September 11, 2001. Wikipedia
Number of deaths: 2,996
Date: September 11, 2001 at 5:14 AM PDT

Location: World Trade Center, New York, The Pentagon,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks



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